What if the biggest problem in healthcare isn’t technology—but the system itself?
In this episode, AnnaLaura Brown sits down with Hunter Ziesing, founder of Longevity Health, to explore why modern healthcare waits far too long to act—and how AI could radically change that. Motivated by personal loss, preventable disease, and firsthand experience with autoimmune conditions, Hunter shares why prevention is missing from medicine and how data-driven care could help people live longer, healthier lives. We discuss: Why the current healthcare system fails at prevention How AI could diagnose disease faster than traditional doctors, The controversial idea that AI could replace primary care physicians within five years Longevity Health’s $11,000 concierge “billionaire bundle” — and their upcoming AI-driven $1,000/year alternative How secure, patient-owned data and a voice-based AI agent could personalize care Why behavioral change—not information—is the real key to better health.
This conversation challenges long-held beliefs about doctors, diagnostics, and who should control your health data. Whether you’re managing autoimmunity, frustrated with the medical system, or curious about the future of healthcare, this episode will make you rethink what “care” really means.
?? Important note: we also discuss the ethical, regulatory, and privacy concerns of AI in healthcare—and why human oversight still matters.
Hunter Ziesing is the founder of Longevity Health, a physician-led, data-driven healthcare company focused on prevention and extending healthy lifespan. After spending two decades on Wall Street covering healthcare and technology, Hunter left finance following personal losses from largely preventable disease—including cancer and a rare autoimmune condition in his family. His work now centers on using advanced diagnostics, AI, and personalized data to detect disease earlier, change behavior, and reduce long-term healthcare costs. Through Longevity Health, he is building both a high-touch concierge longevity program and a scalable AI-driven platform designed to make preventive care more accessible and affordable worldwide.
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AnnaLaura Brown: Okay everybody and today I am happy to have with me Hunter Zeiss Singh and he is going to be talking with us about a couple different things primarily his own experience with having some family members with autoimmune conditions and also talking with us a little bit about AI and how that can help with health challenges which should be interesting because you’ve probably heard that AI is pretty much starting to explode and go everywhere. And then we’re also going to talk about his business and his mission to help people live up to 10 years longer with longevity and you know how that relates to autoimmune and some of that kind of stuff.
Hunter Ziesing: Sure.
AnnaLaura Brown: So welcome to Autoimmune Rehab, Hunter. So why don’t you start off by telling us short 30 60 seconds who are you and what brings you on to the podcast today?
Hunter Ziesing: Again, my name is Hunter Zeiss Singh, um, founder of Longevity Health. Thanks for having me on. Um I spent 20 years on Wall Street in my younger career uh focused on healthc care consumer and technology and um I was always into health and wellness.
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Hunter Ziesing: I was an avid cyclist but suddenly uh my father died at age 65 of pancreatic cancer uh which started in the head and shoulders which was largely preventable. Um it eventually would have got him but he could have lived a longer lifespan. Um and I also lost four slash5 friends to various uh cancer related diseases and um and my brother lost both his kidneys due to uh good pasture system which is a very rare autoim aimmune disease and it was somewhat preventable had it been detected earlier. Um he could have saved his kidneys that just frustrated me. Uh so I decided I really wanted to help others get healthy. I always love getting people out on the bike and running and exercising and because I know how great it is to be healthy and fit. So, I started a foundation called Charity of Choice and I put on large cycling and running events all around the country uh for largely for preventive health and and cancer research. We we partnered with Livestrong. You remember the yellow bracelets?
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AnnaLaura Brown: Oh yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Yeah, that was Lance Armstrong’s thing. Yeah, initially.
Hunter Ziesing: Exactly. uh love him or hate him, he did amazing things for cancer survivorship, not for research, but for survivorship because when you when you get cancer, just people don’t know where to go, where to turn to.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: And the same thing’s going on in our health care system. Um as you mentioned to me, you know, before our call started that, uh there’s very little done in prevention uh to get in front of disorders and uh the current medical system doesn’t support it. So, uh, people are kind of waiting till after the fact to have a problem to fix it.
AnnaLaura Brown: Absolutely. You know, in your typical autoimmune patient, and majority of people listening already knows this, takes them at least three doctors just to even get a diagnosis and three is small. So, I’ve talked to some that visit up to 10 different doctors. They run a billion blood tests, sometimes urine tests, poop tests, whatever else tests.
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AnnaLaura Brown: And at the end of the day, by the time a lot of these people get diagnosed, they’re either already very deep into being quite sick and dysfunctional. Some of them are either already on disability before they can even get a diagnosis. And it just becomes a big circle and a big mess of, oh well, now you got this diagnosis. Let’s try to see if this drug will fix it or, you know, maybe let’s give you this diet and hope it does something. And sometimes if you’re lucky, it might help. But a lot of times, you know, people just get stuck in this cycle of, you know, we didn’t get a diagnosis soon enough. Kind of like what happens with cancer. You know, by the time a lot of people find out they have something like RA or lupus or, you know, even things like Hashimoto’s, Graves, some of these autoimmune conditions, they’re already experiencing really severe symptoms when, you know, potentially they could have been diagnosed much sooner before it became basically wrecked their life essentially.
Hunter Ziesing: Yeah, I I mean we’ll get into AI later in the call, but I think Dr. House is out of business because I think AI can analyze data much more effectively than clinicians and doctors and much much quicker.
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Hunter Ziesing: based on your own biological profile or what’s going on in your system. Of course, it’ll it’ll always have to be checked by physicians, but I think AI is going to make some huge changes there. We can get into that later.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Yeah. So, you started this company, Longetivity Health, and you know, obviously the tagline here is live longer, live better. Physicianled customized longit plans tailored to your biology. So, you know, I find that really intriguing, especially given that, let’s face it, your typical autoimmune patient, you know, let’s assume you’ve gotten a diagnosis. Let’s assume you’re even working with somebody that has some kind of functional medicine knowledge. A lot of times they’re still just kind of somewhat guessing and so are you, you know, when it comes to what kinds of supplements they should give you, what kind of diet you should follow, all that kind of stuff. So, I find the idea of the customized healthc care really interesting. How do you what’s the approach there with you guys and how do you guys figure out you know what kind of customized healthc care to give Somebody.
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Hunter Ziesing: Great question. Um, so we’re we’re kind of in three parts. Our phase one for the last two years, we’ve built Longevity Health and we charge uh it’s a program. It’s an online concierge program similar to if you go to your local doctor who does concierge or you could even go to Peter Aia who you saw in 60 minutes last week who charges I think $175,000 to go to one of his clinics. Most of these clinics cost somewhere between $30 and $50,000.
AnnaLaura Brown: Huh?
Hunter Ziesing: Um we charge So, we have a product that we call the billionaire bundle, and it’s what a billionaire would get.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah. And so they’re really created for the millionaires, you know, that’s the other issue, too, is they’re not created for your average middle class person that gets sick and can’t afford, you know, thousands and thousands of dollars, you know,
Hunter Ziesing: It’s not cheap. It’s $11,000 a year, but we do uh you know, we first start um with a consultation with a doctor on the phone. We have four doctors in our practice.
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Hunter Ziesing: One of our co-founders is a doctor. And it’s really like, you know, Annalora, why why are you doing this? what’s going on in your life. It’s a conversation. You know, it’s, you know, my parents had this, my mother had this, my father had this, I’m going through this. Um, I’m worried about this. I’ve had a health scare. Um, and then we look at your individual self based on what is next. So, what is, you know, what’s going on? So, we test. So, we do a comprehensive blood test, a DEXA scan, which is um bone density and visceral fat. Only cost 75 bucks for a bone density test. Every woman over 40 should get one. Every man over 45. We do a sleep study, a glucose monitor, a V2 max test, which is not just for athletes. A higher V2 is very indicative of longevity and health span. Um, and then we do uh a gut biome test and in some cases we do uh uh genomics, okay, depending on what the the patient wants.
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Hunter Ziesing: the all those tests are included in the program and then we analyze all that data and look across the tests um based on your biological profile not some not hunters but analoris and then we develop a plan uh and then we have accountability so we follow you you know we give everybody a slack channel or text or email and there’s constant interaction with a an executive medical board which includes a a doctor a clinician a exercise physiologist and a dietician. So, it’s a lot. It’s a lot. And we’ve done oh a little over 100 patients through the program and um I can’t say we’ve prevented any autoimmune immune diseases yet, but we uh not that they’re preventable, but we’ve gotten in front of a lot of health conditions for people and we’ve created change uh and account that’s where it comes into accountability. So, people are changing their diets, they’re changing their exercise regimen. Um, so it’s it’s an a very effective program. Most of the people that have had it for a year are renewing.
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Hunter Ziesing: That’s the basic flagship product. Our next version of that is AI plus human in the loop, which will do everything we just said, but for $1,000 a month, $1,000 a year.
AnnaLaura Brown: Wow. Yeah, that’s really amazing because if you think about it, I mean, yeah, $11,000 a year seems like a lot, but for some people, especially if you’ve been forking over a lot of money for functional medicine and supplements and, you know, you’ve been doctor after doctor after doctor, even if you have really good insurance, yeah, maybe you’re not paying probably not maybe not 11,000 a year, but you’re still paying a significant amount of money out of pocket in most cases. And wow, $1,000 a year with AI.
Hunter Ziesing: Yeah.
AnnaLaura Brown: That’s interesting. So, tell me a little more about that AI one.
Hunter Ziesing: Well, there’s and just backing up for one second, you mentioned reimbursement and you were mentioned all these tests.
AnnaLaura Brown: How does that do things?
Hunter Ziesing: There’s a there’s so much going on in the longevity space right now. By the way, longevity isn’t necessarily living longer, it’s living better.
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Hunter Ziesing: Um, America spends something like$2 trillion dollars on end of life care from Medicare.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: Um, which can be largely prevented to better better health. Um, and living long living may maybe you don’t live as long, but you die quicker, right? As opposed to these prolonged deaths deaths from diabetes and disease and all this stuff. It’s I wouldn’t say it’s cancer preventable, but if you could catch it earlier or these autoimmune diseases that you know so much about, if you catch it earlier, you you may or may not live longer, but you’re going to live better. The problem right now with all this functional medicine is is three-fold. Is one, there’s just too much advice. There’s so many tests out there that you can get which are wonderful. Get a blood test, buy some supplements, right? Hypobaric oxygen chambers. Uh there’s uh uh uh peptides are coming on the scene, right? all these all these products like you go go get a blood test at function health and and you can buy some of their supplements or superpower and they’re wonderful tests but um I think everybody’s biological profile is different and you also need much more longitudinal data than just a blood test so too much advice too many tests and then the other thing that you mentioned is that the medical system doesn’t pay largely for these tests yet
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Hunter Ziesing: but I think it’s going to change as more and more of these tests come into come to fruition and companies like us can prove that we can get in front of disease and change people’s outcomes by using the
AnnaLaura Brown: Absolutely.
Hunter Ziesing: data. Um, so I think reimbur Yeah, but your doctor doesn’t want to look at this stuff.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: I’m I’m You’re You live in Utah. You’re probably a skier. If you walk into a ski shop with your boots and your bindings and your jacket that you bought on Amazon and said, “Hey, mount my bindings. Oh, by the way, my zipper’s broken. Can you fix my zipper for me?” and like you bought all this stuff on Amazon. It’s the same as walking into a doctor with your blood tests and your your DEXA scan and like here Dr. Brown, what do I do with all this stuff? And then he or she’s going to say, listen, I didn’t order this stuff. I don’t get paid for this stuff. So you follow me.
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AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah, absolutely.
Hunter Ziesing: So the medical needs Yeah.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah, it’s definitely uh it’s definitely a battle for sure that absolutely needs to change. But like again, you mentioned the whole longitivity thing. The average person gets diagnosed with an autoimmune condition when they’re in their 40s. Let’s say, you know, you’re 40 and you get this autoimmune diagnosis, but you still live into your 90s, but those last 50 years of your life are, you know, spent going to the doctor every three months for another blood test and then trying to slap different drugs and supplements and you trying to change your supplements, but then you still can’t really do things, you know, you can’t travel because you feel too sick all the time, all
Hunter Ziesing: Exactly.
AnnaLaura Brown: these other kinds of things. What What’s the point, you know?
Hunter Ziesing: So, so, so we talked about AI.
AnnaLaura Brown: So interesting.
Hunter Ziesing: Um, and AI is everyone’s talking about AI. AI is not fully ready yet, but I think in five years your AI will replace your primary doctor.
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AnnaLaura Brown: And what makes you think that out of curiosity?
Hunter Ziesing: It’ll prescribe because it can prescribe medicine. It can and it can order lab tests. Um it can make referrals, introductions. Um it’s so much it can do. Um there will probably always be a human in the loop. It’s not ready for three reasons. AI hallucinates. It makes mistakes. People are not ready for a driverless doctor yet. People still want a human in the loop. We know that. Maybe in San Francisco because I’m I feel safer around a Whimo than I do you driving your car.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: Kansas. If I live in Kansas City and I’ve never seen a Whimo driverless car, I’m going to run for the curb, right? Um the uh um and then um uh the regulatory environment is not fully ready yet, right? But that’s going to change. So, what we’ve done to reduce cost, and I mentioned $1,000 a year, $100 a month, is you can store all your data on our AWS server, which is a highly secure HIPPA compliant server.
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Hunter Ziesing: All your tests, you can download any tests that you’ve had done. We can order additional tests. Once your tests are in there, the the voice agent you can talk to, uh, which I’ll call right now, will analyze your data and make recommendations and develop plans for you, and then a doctor will check it. So, it’s AI plus human in the loop. So, we’re just going to call it real quick. I um I’ve already done my consultation, so it knows me. I’ve had a lot of conversations with it. Um so, it might hallucinate a little bit because I call it so many times a week, but give it a call and I’m going to ask it about my V2 test and we’ll see if I had a V2
AnnaLaura Brown: That’s interesting though. Let’s see what this does.
Hunter Ziesing: max test recently. Um hello, this is Jesse from Longevity Health. How have things been going for you? Pretty good, Doc. Uh my knee is feeling better. My back’s a little bit sore.
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Hunter Ziesing: I fell off a ladder yesterday. So, let me know if I should do anything for that. And then in the meantime, just pull up my my V2 max test and just share with me my results. And uh remind me what I need to do to get my V2 max up. And also, what is V2 max anyway? How does it affect longevity? It’s good to hear your knee is feeling better, but I’m sorry to hear about your fall from the ladder. A sore back can be quite uncomfortable. For now, I’d recommend resting and applying ice to the area. If the pain persists or worsens, or if you experience any numbness or weakness, it would be best to consult with a doctor to make sure everything is all right. Regarding your V2 max, I recall we’ve discussed this before. Your last V2 max test from July 11th, 2025 showed a peak of 45.4 4 milliliters per kilogram per minute, which is a really strong result for your age. To help you understand it better, V2 max is essentially the maximum amount of oxygen your body can use during intense exercise.
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Hunter Ziesing: It’s a key indicator of your cardiovascular fitness and overall aerobic endurance. A higher V2 max is strongly linked to better longevity because it reflects a more efficient cardiovascular system, which can reduce the risk of heart disease and other age related conditions. to improve your V2 max. We’ve talked about incorporating highintensity interval training or high into your routine. This involves short burst of intense exercise. Anyway, you get the idea. If I uh so all my my blood tests, every test I’ve ever had done in my life that I have, I can I can take a picture of a PDF and put it into our system.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: It’ll analyze the data and make recommendations. And it’s getting better. It’s like I said, the doctor’s still in the loop, but the idea is is to take AI to look across all all of everything, DNA, RNA, whatever is in there, and it analyzes the data, and then the doctor checks it. So, with a $100 a month program, you get a doctor.
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Hunter Ziesing: We don’t pay for the tests. There’s a $200 a month program where we have some tests and a $400 a month program that we also provide some tests. Um, and by the way, you can send it around to your listeners, but it’s our website is longevityhealth.me. Not me. And the um
AnnaLaura Brown: Okay. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah, we’ll definitely include that in the link. Yeah, that’s interesting. And and what I find uh appealing too is, you know, I mean, you can upload lab tests and things to other AIS like chat GPT, but of course there’s no doctor involvement and the security of it questionable as well, too. So you guys have incorporated more of like the HIPPA compliant security so people aren’t just uploading their health data to something like chat GPT and hoping that it doesn’t end up on the internet somewhere.
Hunter Ziesing: correct. Yeah, it is kind of scary, isn’t it? And there’s always risk for all these platforms. You know, there was a huge health breach back in January, but we’re uh we use a company called Healthy, which is similar to um uh Epic or Sherner for housing data.
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Hunter Ziesing: And there’s like there’s always risk of of breach, but um or these companies go out of business and where does the data go? But I don’t know, your generation and mine worries more about it than younger generation.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah, I think they do. That’s true. But, you know, I mean, it’s still something to think about. So, you mentioned you think in about five years it’s going to completely replace the doctors like with prescriptions and everything else. So, how how do you see that happening then? I’m just curious.
Hunter Ziesing: So I think it’ll take the regulatory environment to change and we’re we’re in early discussions with Singap um Singapore, Israel and maybe Taiwan to test this. Um, so when you need medicine, it will prescribe the medicine and your um, prescription. You’ll just pick it up at CVS, right?
AnnaLaura Brown: Mhm.
Hunter Ziesing: Um, it can order your lab test. So, a lot of these tests need to be prescribed by a doctor, but why do you need a human? I feel sorry for any human these days.
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Hunter Ziesing: I You see, yesterday Amazon’s building these robots that are going to fill boxes like human robots. It’s kind of scary. We’re all being replaced, right? The buggy whip is going away. I’m sure people will adapt, but um it will just it’ll reduce so much cost and then if we’re correct about the data that we’re using, it will save so much money in insurance. You’re not going to have to worry about, you know, what’s going on in DC right now because we’re going to save trillions of dollars in the health care system. And I heard once that there are three or four trillion dollars of insurance reserves. Insurance companies and public companies that are self-insured have to reserve money for health care. And they’re over reserved right now because there’s so many sick people. And if we can reduce the amount of sick people, reserves will come down and money will flow back to consumers in terms of lower insurance premiums. So um not really answering how AI an AI it’s not really AI doctor related but using data uh and then building systems for accountability to change behavior will change health care in society and AI can do that.
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AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: AI can do amazing stuff. And not just AI, but technology. Just just say that you’re you’re diabetic and you’re um a vegan, right? And um you got young kids who want McDonald’s, crappy food. It’s cheaper to, you know, eat food at McDonald’s. You’re driving by McDonald’s and it’s it says, “Sorry, stop.” your check engine light goes on your warning light on your app saying a mile down the street is a healthy food vegan restaurant in your local neighborhood that’s offering 50% off for you and your family or you’re walking through Whole Foods and which is very expensive for most people and it develops a menu plan for you and gives you discounts from vegan health suppliers and a menu uh you know get financial incentives then we can get into to social incentives for people using AI and technology ology such as gamification. So, um um you know, women’s uh of Salt Lake City over 50 with osteoporosis, right? Working out together, building our bones together, you know, social stuff like Facebook Strava or um you know, fat men over 300 pounds, right?
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Hunter Ziesing: And when you when you get to 275, you get kicked out of the 300 lb group, right? And so on.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: So, make it fun and gify. you know, your or your check engine light comes on. It knows you’re traveling. It knows you’re you’re you’ve gone you’re going or you just say, “Hey, listen. I’m going abroad. I’m going to to France for two weeks. I hate the food. What should I eat? Where should I go?” Boom. It develops places for you to go. And when you’re not behaving well, it’s going to warn you. Hey, Anna, off the biscuits. You know, make it fun.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah, that’s funny. Yeah, because Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: Make it fun. Make it fun. Make it fun.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: Yeah.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah. Absolutely. And I mean, it’s already I mean, I think a lot of people have tried this. I’ve tried this for sure.
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AnnaLaura Brown: You know, you can even just go to chat GPT these days and say, “Hey, I I can’t have gluten, dairy, sugar, and I don’t like to eat red meat. what should I eat for the next two weeks? And it develops this whole meal plan right then and there for you.
Hunter Ziesing: Yeah.
AnnaLaura Brown: So, yeah, we’re starting to see, you know, AI a lot of things.
Hunter Ziesing: And a lot of what we’re a lot of what we’re doing as you mentioned earlier, you don’t you don’t need us. You can do it on your own. You can throw everything into chat GPT. You can build plans. I mean, a lot of people do that. It’s a lot of work. And that’s why ultimately we want to charge $10 a month for this.
AnnaLaura Brown: Wow. Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: So because it it organizes everything, it’ll have all the discounts and the motivation and like instead of going to function and health and spending $500 for a blood test and they do they do some pretty good stuff with the um they give you a clinician, they tell you what to do.
Hunter Ziesing: It’s just a blood test. But why spend $500 when they’re paying $100 for the tests? So everything that we do is passed on to you. $10 a month. A billion people on the platform globally. Five bucks for companies, 10 bucks for individuals. You own all your own data. You control your life. It’s all organized for you. Or just do it on Chat GPT and build your own plan, which you can.
AnnaLaura Brown: You can, but you pretty much also at this point have to have the paid plan to do it, too.
Hunter Ziesing: So you’re wast Spotify.
AnnaLaura Brown: So, you know, definitely going to be more than five bucks a month. So, that’s, you know, Yeah, that’s interesting.
Hunter Ziesing: I can listen to my own music, but I love Spotify. I love, you know, uh, satellite radio because it’s all serve. It’s a service. It’s a service. That’s ultimately where it’s going. Yeah. It’s it’s going to change it’s going to change healthcare.
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AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: And and my my mission and vision in life or mission is to change the nature of preventive health by using all this data and using it to hold people accountable and to give them incentives and motivation. So, I could give a rat’s ass about this this government crap going on. It’s like they’re all focused on the wrong things. They’re, you know, the Democrats just want to give more money to sick care. So, I’m kind of siding with the Republicans in that in that sense.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: But even even the Republicans are off. Although RFK is is sort of kind of getting somewhat ahead of the curve on preventive health, reducing drug care costs and insurance is ridiculous. Insurance loves sick people in America. They love sick people because Medicare, Medicare, my mom took five years to die, costs probably a million dollars to the government when it could have cost 200,000 because she was sick and didn’t take care of yourself.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah. Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: So anyway, off the political bandwagon, but I I laugh every day this government shutdown because you’re all focused on the wrong stuff.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah, they are. They’re all focused on the wrong stuff. And yeah, I mean, the preventative, like you said, is is really big key. So, let’s, you know, come back to I guess we will 2025 now. And let’s say somebody’s listening to this and they, you know, they’re thinking, okay, you know, all these different programs sound great. You know, maybe they have the budget for some of them, maybe they don’t. What would you say is a first practical step somebody can take to say okay I want to see what you know AI can do to help me whether that’s evaluate the labs whether it’s you know how to how you know what what practical step would be the first thing somebody should do to determine okay how is AI going to help me right now in the moment you know whether they’ve got a diagnosis whether they don’t you know whatever situation they’re
Hunter Ziesing: Yeah, I would I would recommend uh maybe don’t download your health records, your HIPPO records into chat GPT unless you’ve got a disorder and you want GPT to look at it.
Hunter Ziesing: Um just for you mentioned for security purposes also HIPPA data is somewhat rearview mirror I would I would recommend um three tests that everyone gets. Um I would do a blood test about 50 or 60 bio biomarkers. I don’t think you need 150 biomarkers. Um I would do a DEXA scan which is bone density and visceral fat. That’s about $75. Uh, and I would also do a probably a V2 max test.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: If you’re concerned about your insulin levels, I would probably just try a um a glucose monitor. We use Stell from Dexcom. um and you know for two weeks to a month to see you know where your insulin levels then throw all the data into chat GPT and and you know put it all once do it yourself and see what
AnnaLaura Brown: Heat. Yeah, for sure.
Hunter Ziesing: what it spits out for you. Um, yeah, the last one is a beta.
AnnaLaura Brown: Absolutely. And obviously I noticed you guys offer free consultation. So we’ll link to that.
AnnaLaura Brown: So if somebody wants to consider working with you with any of the programs, you know, whether maybe they do have the budget for the more expensive one or they want to try out the less expensive one, they can get all the details on how work for them specifically.
Hunter Ziesing: The one I showed you with AI is in beta right now and it’s a paid trial. Um, and it’s AI I’ll send it to you. AI.Levityhealth.me me and that’s a $100 a month and we might have a few spots on that.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah. Yeah. Worth it. Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: Yeah.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: Um but but you know the idea is like one test doesn’t fit all.
AnnaLaura Brown: It’s a good one.
Hunter Ziesing: So hopefully we get people program and you just keep testing and some new test comes along and you’ll call up us call us through our app and saying, “Hey, I’m thinking about getting this genomics test. I
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: just got quoted $3,500 for a genomic test.” So we we have a supplier for $500.
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Hunter Ziesing: So we just pass it through, right? So just keep adding your data. The more data you have in there through your lifetime. I mean, like I said, a billion people, every man, woman, and child should have a product like this from birth till death, right?
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: Imagine when your parents are aging. You know that you’ve got all their data and eventually they just give you power of attorney and everything’s in one place. You’ve got all their stuff, right? You know what you know medications mom takes. you know when she wakes up, you know their diet, right? When the caregivers come in or she goes off to her nursing care facility, it’s all managed and they’re communicating with you.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: I don’t know if you’ve lost any parents, but like my mom when my mom passed broke up her whole family because everybody was fighting over what to do. There was no system on my mother’s data and she kept getting misdiagnosed and she boot booted around the health care system.
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Hunter Ziesing: It was it was miserable. So yeah, uh it’s fr
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah. And I think just kind of like you’ve said, I think the biggest benefit to this, whether it’s, you know, somebody that’s got something like cancer or it is an autoimmune condition with this whole AI stuff is, you know, your average doctor’s office and especially if you’ve been to multiple doctors for diagnosises, they don’t they don’t have a good way, you know, they’re not data scientists, if you will. So they don’t have a good way to go through and effectively analyze all your different tests over time, you know, and pull in, you know, all the different things that you’ve been taking all into one place to try to actually give you a real concrete plan. And your average doctor doesn’t really know that much about AI, at least not at this point.
Hunter Ziesing: Yeah, that’s changing.
AnnaLaura Brown: Now, like you said, the future has, but you know, yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: That’s changing. A lot a lot of companies are in business now to help doctors and medical systems use this data and become more efficient.
00:28:13
Hunter Ziesing: So, you know, the, you know, if you’re a member of UCSF medicine or Utah, well, I don’t know what med medical facility you’re part of, they’re starting to do that, but they want to keep you in their system, right?
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: They don’t want you to go outside their system. Um, but if I if I can charge you $10 a month to do all this, you’ll be more informed than your medical system will be. You’ll have all your data, and I’ll just let you you can just link out to them. You can still use them for your procedures and all your stuff, but hey, it’s it’s your data, not their data. It’s your data.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: And they’re not going to use half the data that you use. And when you walk into them with all your data and all these tests, you’re going to know more about yourself than they’re going to know about you. And that’s true. Whenever you go to your doctor, it’s like you got to go to intake and like they got to pull up your record.
00:29:02
Hunter Ziesing: Let let me let me read your file. Oh, yeah. I remember you. Right.
AnnaLaura Brown: Well, it’s like Yeah. And we we innately know more about ourselves than our doctors do. And that’s, you know, again, another thing that can be a source of frustration for whether it’s autoimmune or whatever is that, you know, we know what’s going on. And, you know, sometimes that doesn’t match up with, you know, our health.
Hunter Ziesing: You know, look, you know more about your you know more about your car than your mechanic does because you’ve got electronics and warning systems that go off.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: You know, lights, brakes, engine oil, transmission, right? Wiper fluid, right? you know, you know, so when you just you check engine light.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah.
Hunter Ziesing: I’m going to we’re going to have a check engine light on this app. Not only when things are red flags come up, but when you’re not behaving well.
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it’s like you know more about your car because you’re the one driving it.
00:29:51
AnnaLaura Brown: You know more about your body because you’re the one living in it, you know.
Hunter Ziesing: Exactly. Anyway, that’s that’s our story.
AnnaLaura Brown: Cool. That’s awesome. So, anything else I didn’t ask you that you want to share with anybody? And like I said, we’ll link below to his Logitivity Health website. We’ll link to information on the AI program. And yeah, this has been a really interesting conversation and you know, we’ll just keep continue to see where AI goes and hopefully it definitely continues to help improve the health and diagnosis of autoimmune cancer and everything else and
Hunter Ziesing: Yeah. Yeah. No, only other other thing we love is uh we um we’re still open on some beta for the AI product AI. Longevityhealth.me and uh you know sometime this winter we’ll be doing an investment round. So we’ll probably be out there to Utah when it starts snowing to see some investors.
AnnaLaura Brown: Cool.
Hunter Ziesing: Yeah.
AnnaLaura Brown: Awesome. Yeah, I’m I’m excited to see where this continues to go and how this continues to evolve and help people with their health because yeah, it’s like you said, our health care system is insurance, government, everything. It’s a big mess and we need help. So, interesting to see where it goes.
Hunter Ziesing: It’s getting better. Well, thanks for having me
AnnaLaura Brown: Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.
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